GS 2 episodes uploaded

I FINALLY loaded the UYWI07 Audio and Video Podcast episodes for “Freedom to all Captives and Pardon to all Prisoners” General Session featuring Soong-Chan Rah. This session has become a bit controversial and I invite you to continue the dialog here as you wrestle with his comments and “the solutions” for overcoming racial barriers and for what whites can do to atone for the sin of their ancestors.

Please watch or listen and then let us know your thoughts here.

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5 Responses to “GS 2 episodes uploaded”

  1. Lyndsey C. 05/20/2007 at 10:41 pm #

    I attended this last weekend. I thought that his solutions were great. As a white individual I think it is important to understand the injustice that we have committed against minority groups. We have especially done this to our brothers and sisters in Christ by smooshing them out of leadership for so many years. White privilege exists… we can either ignore it and let it slowly destroy our congregations or we can acknowledge it and work towards a more inclusive, Christ-centered arrangement. Our churches and leadership teams should reflect the sorrounding community. I also agreed with his call to break free from materialism.

  2. Luanne 05/21/2007 at 11:36 am #

    I attended this session also, and as a causcasion female, I was a bit offended by this “lecture” – I was confused to the purpose of it. it seemed to separate the body of christ – and not unite us together. Sure some of the points made were valid – I do not deny it. Yes, change is needed. But in this conference – I looked to bond with my brogthers and sis in Christ – learn from them – not feel the difference of our color – or be ashamed by my “whiteness” either. When he eventually got around to “preaching” – I was unable to listen – nor did I really want to – and then the worship – which was great all weekend – fell flat because of the “lecture” and my heart wasn’t there. I eventually had to make this “non-personal” – and look to God – focus on Him to forget what the speaker had said (but in reality – I can’t forget it).

    What was amazing – as a white woman living in a heavy hispanic area – and moved there because of God calling me to this specific place – the night before I had a conversation with Carlos from San Jose, California – and we talked about the differences in color – where I am and how God had broken down the barriers of race between these wonderful Hisapanic women I am working with and love – and Carlos encouraged me to “use” my “whiteness” – my color – for the Glory of God. I was more encouraged by my conversation with Carlos on Fri night than by this GS speaker Saturday.

    My question to UYWI: What was the purpose of this Speaker? Are we to be united in Christ – or separate by our colors – mine being white – (per carlos!).

    P.s. – and yes, I have been mentored by an African-American woman – and loved and earned much from her…

    Blessings in Jesus,
    Luanne

  3. Phil 05/21/2007 at 8:29 pm #

    I agree with both of the previous comments from Lyndsey and Luanne. Yes, in some ways we need to atone for the sins of our ancestors. However, in the process of bringing these issues to light, I feel whites have been under undue attack for some time and the dialog brought forth by the minority clergy in most churches has smacked of oppression toward whites. I think we’ve been punished enough. There are times when I feel ashamed of my race. I shouldn’t be made to feel this way. Nor should anyone else.
    The weekend was so much better than I could have hoped for. That particular session was to be expected. I do not believe there was any ill intent toward whites on his part. And let me also point out on his behalf, that He attacked every race that he cared to mention. Just an adverse way of recognizing and celebrating our differences.
    Now lets all lick our wounds and get back to the arduous task of living together as we move towards the ultimate goal of fulfilling the great commission. God bless us all.

  4. Joy 05/22/2007 at 11:04 am #

    I , too, am white. I have also had the experience of taking a couple of classes with Soong-Chan and have heard him speak numerous times.

    These past experiences with him have taught me that he’s not intending to attack anyone. He’s always gracefully and lovingly dialogueing with individuals who disagree with him. If you found yourself tuning out, I would encourage you to re-listen to his session and experience it as a challenge, with a person of color that you have a good relationship with, via the podcast on itunes .

    I think it’s okay that caucasians were uncomfortable with what he had to say. I have a close personal friend who is an African-American pastor. He has shared with me that he often doesn’t feel the safety to speak out about how he feels uncomfortable while in a room full of white people, because of the things they say or do. Maybe the fact that we whites don’t like being made to feel uncomfortable is a form of oppression: meaning that our uncomfortable reaction could be a deterrant to a person of color feeling the freedom to share when they’re uncomfortable, or to share their point of view on an issue.

    Does that mean I should feel ashamed of my race? No – but it does mean that I need to learn about the historical, current and predicted trends in societal sin and systemic oppression so that I can alter my own actions and advocate, using my white power for the Kingdom.

    What a blessing that UYWI provided this vehicle to post and comment, as we attempt to wrestle through this as a community.

  5. dan 05/22/2007 at 11:45 am #

    im asian american. when you’re a minority, you hear stuff like this a lot. i don’t think it really helps much to point it out anymore, all cultures fall short. my advice is just to do your thing, being a part of hip-hop, i rarely think of race anymore. moreso should we be in Christ. The bible calls to treat others better than yourselves, not equal. Philippians 2:3

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